If you’re looking to expand your salon business, knowing how to hire 
nail pros and building a dynamic team can pose quite a challenge. This 
is an adaptation of a discussion we had with Brionna, a salon owner from
 Pennsylvania, who is currently looking to build a salon team of her 
own. We can definitely speak to the learning curve surrounding the 
hiring process. Your company can only be as good as the team you build. 
While you’d like your team to be a one time perfect roster of talent; 
it’s important to realize that your salon business should be a living 
breathing growing thing. As a salon owner, you have to be prepared for 
the reality of change and turn over. 
[YN TRACEY] What is the most obvious challenge when it comes to staffing a salon?
Obviously, hiring for the salon environment will have its own specific 
challenges. Learn how to see past a seemingly great resume and actually 
read a candidate’s vibe during the interview. The vibe should be your 
north star as you get a feel for a person’s personality in a brief 5 - 
20 minute interview. Ask yourself, can you live with this person for the
 rest of your life? (It sounds like a joke but it’s not.) Are you 
willing to spend more time with this person than even your own family? 
Trust your gut here, because no matter what, people’s true selves come 
out when they get more comfortable on the job. 
If hiring wasn’t a tough enough task, the second hardest thing is for 
you to have the strength to recognizing when a situation isn’t working 
out. If you are unwilling to deal with the problem, you are affecting 
the health of your entire business. So many people will just live with a
 bad hiring decision. If either side of the work relationship is off 
balance, know that nothing spreads faster than negative energy. As the 
salon owner, you must manage the staffing problem before it gets 
unmanageable. 
Yet another one of the hardest challenges is dealing with people and the
 feeling of being confined in single shared space. While customers come 
to the salon for a tranquil moment of escape, a nail tech cannot escape 
the chatter of their salon co-workers. By the end of a work day, you’ll 
probably know each one of their life stories better than they do. It 
will be the same story they’ve told each one of their many clients on 
repeat. On top of that, you have to learn to embrace a mash-up of unique
 personality traits and the running dialogue between your co-workers and
 their clients. 
[YN] There is a lot to talk about here. What are the specific challenges
 you are having with hiring? That’s the main issue right, building a 
team?
[BRIONNA] I wouldn’t say it’s necessarily a challenge yet. It is 
something that I feel will be challenging for me. Right now, I’ve been 
doing nails by myself and I’m booked out until May. By summer, I want to
 start building a team, a loyal team, with people that will be with me 
for long term.
[YN] So give us some background on your salon situation? Is it your own 
location and you’re the only tech or are you the only nail tech in a 
salon?
[BRIONNA] So I’m basically in a studio on a main road. I have an 
esthetician here with me and I have space for probably another three 
techs. Someone just called for a walk-in today at 5.30PM and I had to 
apologize for being booked until May. So I feel like I am ready to add 
more people to my team. 
[YN] Ok. So it’s your location, correct?
[BRIONNA] Yes, it’s my location where I get a lot of walk-ins but I have to turn them away. 
[YN] So you’ve got a completely different type of challenge. We’re 
actually really excited about this because we can speak to this very 
well. Tracey is going to come at this from hard core nail salon 
experience and building a salon for herself. I will come at this a 
business owner with over 50 employees and how we bring people on. So 
you’re going to get two different perspectives. 
[YN | TRACEY] First of all, I think you’re really set up for success on a
 Main Street and getting calls which is amazing! You’re ahead of the 
curve. Your nails are beautiful, by the way. What I love about your 
situation, is that you’re working your way up. You didn’t buy a 15,000 
sq ft shop and trying to fill it tomorrow. That’s a whole other level of
 stress. Instead, you’ve taken care of yourself first. Yes, you can fit 
three other techs in with you but you don’t need to hire them all 
overnight. To start, let’s focus on one or maybe two new techs max with a
 buffer for that third one. If I were you, I’d be looking for someone 
who has a base clientele already. What’s nice about this is: 1) You know
 they already do good work. 2) You know they can already earn based on 
the existing clients. 3) You know they have a personality for clientele.
 4) You can feel comfortable filtering clients to them with room for 
growth. 
[YN | HABIB] ...And this is going to be a booth rent situation, just to be clear?
[BRIONNA] No. It’s actually illegal in the state of Pennsylvania to booth rent. 
[YN | HABIB] Ah, ok so it’s going to be commission. It’s similar to New York. 
[YN | TRACEY] So on commission it will be somewhat similar and work out 
for the best for you. If you have the ability to find someone that wants
 to move over and you can offer a different situation on commission with
 their and a base clientele. How does it work out in Pennsylvania with 
techs leave a salon with their clients? 
[YN | HABIB] I’m seeing this actually and have a couple thoughts. First 
of all, Brionna, you’re not hurting for clients. Right now, you have an 
overflow of clients. My thought is if you have an overflow and it’s 
obvious from your Instagram that you’re doing really good work. Would 
you want someone to bring in under your wing to train/execute a similar 
style of work? Or do you want to have someone who is already has a style
 of their own, like Tracey’s been advising? Are you looking for someone 
already established and you just want them to come in and crank out 
nails in their own different aesthetic?
[BRIONNA] Actually I was listening to one of your podcasts a few weeks 
ago. And honestly I want someone who specializes in something. I don’t 
want someone who does everything. I want someone who wants to 
concentrate on what they do best. I wouldn’t mind if they had a 
clientele, but I don’t think that it would hurt if they didn’t because 
of my overflow right now. 
[YN | TRACEY] With the scenario of a new nail tech, a first employee, 
coming onboard with a base of their own, they have the experience to 
maintain your salon reputation. Brionna will then have the opportunity 
to filter the clients over as a tag team. This offers immediate relief 
of the overflow and walk-in clients while not at first having to train 
someone herself. Once the salon is flowing and doing very well, then you
 can add the second/third tech. The pressure will be off and these can 
be staff you bring in that have no clientele and you have time to train 
them from the bottom up. 
[YN | HABIB] Of course, it’s nice to have a very specific type of person
 who you want to hire. The reality will be that you will go through a 
number of “specialized” nail techs. This is the hard part. Be aware that
 what they tell you they do and what they actually are capable of doing 
might not be the same thing. This is why I am a firm believer that the 
best way to find good people to be a part of your team is unfortunately 
through a volume game. Everything about business for me is a volume 
game. Here at YN, I can’t even tell you the number of people we’ve gone 
through over the last 19 years to get the amazingly tight team we have 
in place today. You want people who fit in your company culture that 
totally thrive within it. Putting a dream team together takes time plus 
trial and error. You’ve got to have a strategy of “trying things out”. 
You will go through people until you find the one you want. You will 
bring people on; but you will have to learn when/if you need to let them
 go. Each person that comes in to work will help define what you 
actually need versus what you think you need. With new hires, be sure to
 be know what your local state employment laws are. 
[YN | TRACEY] You’re in such a fortunate place to be able to take your 
time and not to have the pressure to fill the room. It’s a huge plus. 
There is a lot to have to gauge in the hiring process: the quality of 
the work, the compatibility of the personality and all in a few minutes.
 It’s extremely hard. 
[YN | HABIB] What I love is that you want to grow. There are a lot of 
nail professionals who build out their full clientele and are happy with
 this income. But you want to add more people and you want more. This 
tells me that not only are you a professional nail artist but that 
you’ve got an interest in entrepreneurship. 
[BRIONNA] Yes, that’s definitely right. 
[YN | TRACEY] Let me ask, has anyone come to ask for a spot in your salon? Have you put any vibes out there yet?
[BRIONNA] Yes, I’ve been posting it a little. I’ll post a status in my 
comment section that I’m looking for a nail teach in the summer. I have 
had one nail tech reach out to me but when I looked at her page it 
wasn’t a right fit for me. 
[YN | HABIB] Sure that’s ok. And you just keep moving on. How many people have you looked at? 
[BRIONNA] Other than that one, there are two other techs here where I 
live. It’s a really small town. There are only 7 nail shops here 45 
minutes outside of PIttsburg. It’s different out here. Not a of techs 
out here to choose from unless they’re coming from a bigger city. So 
last week I went to a beauty school to recruit people that I would have 
to train. It feels easier to train someone fresh out of school than 
someone who...
[YN | HABIB] ...already has bad habits? This gives us more context. I 
think because you are in a small town, you’re going to have to go the 
Beauty School route. Go ahead and hit them up and put it out there that 
you’re interested in new grads from their school. Tell them you’re 
looking for two max right now in a power-packed salon and you are too 
busy to handle the clientele. I want to bring some people that want 
long-term careers that I can train. That would be a good road for you. 
[YN | TRACEY] Again, I know I keep saying it because you don’t have to 
fill all positions right now. It’s going to give you time to bring one 
person in. I would not recommend bringing in three new people in at the 
same time. I would focus on starting them on something easy for a new 
nail tech; maybe like a gel polish or SlickPour service that they’ll be 
able to get down very quickly and build their confidence. It’s going to 
give you something that you can train them on and get them on the floor 
immediately. And when they are not working on someone; they are 
practicing, practicing, practicing.
[YN | HABIB] What’s the majority of your clientele break down to right now?
[BRIONNA] I have gel polish. I have hard gels. I have acrylics. I have poly gel. And I just got dip.
[YN] You’re amazing. You give the client what they want! 
[YN | HABIB] I love Tracey’s strategy here. Bring in somebody new from 
school. You’re gong to be able to train them and offload all your gel 
polish services. Man, if I can do gel polish; somebody out of school can
 do gel polish. 
That’s a great way to bring on more clients; so you can bring on more 
enhancements. Your new staff can get comfortable with the gel polish 
service. Once they get that down you can bump them up to SlickPour or 
whatever dip powders or whatever the next level is. Keep the new staff 
practicing.
[YN | TRACEY] The interview process is going to be very important when 
you’re pulling from the schools. I always say that we can teach anyone 
how to do good nails. What you’re gauging in the interview is their 
personality... Can they take direction or do they think they already 
know everything? Are they teachable? … You’re going to build a loyal 
employee by teaching them better than anyone out there and giving them a
 great work environment while they are also helping you build up your 
clients very quickly. This is the recipe for loyalty in your team. 
[YN| HABIB] A real tip off is a person’s vibe. Is this person telling 
you that they want to learn? Or are they coming in saying that they know
 everything already? That last one is a red flag. Hey maybe use this 
episode as a jump off. Please hit up Brionna in the comments section of 
the podcast. If anyone in the YN community, has any experience or 
suggestions to share, reach out here or on her Instagram via DM. Yes, we
 manufacture nail care products, but we’re so happy to be able give away
 a lot of good information to help build salons regardless of what 
products they use. If you’re doing good work and putting good work out 
there then you’re building a great business. It’s good for everybody. 
It’s good for the industry. We can’t wait to hear how everything goes 
for you. Don’t be afraid to DM us with any questions and we’ll call you 
back! We’re here to help. 
[BRIONNA] Thank you guys so much. I really appreciate that. 
To watch the entire YN BIZ TALK LIVE CALL, check it out here.
13 June 2019
